3/10/2010

LARRY FLASH JENKINS ("THE WHITE SHADOW")

LARRY FLASH JENKINS has been in films and television shows for several decades, playing the troubled, quick-footed "Gummy" in the Chevy Chase comedy FLETCH; a basketball player in THE WHITE SHADOW; and is one of the two free-spirited parking attendants in the John Hughe's classic FERRIS BUELLER'S DAY OFF...

How did you get your start in acting?

Hey James...I got started in acting in 1973 right after I graduated from Fenger high school (Which I am on the wall of fame)...I was a stand out Baseball player, loved basketball..but my mother thought I was a ham and would make a better actor…I disagreed…so we flipped a coin and she won…one catch...she would not let me go to Los Angeles right away...too far from Chicago...so off to a local college...Olive Harvey Jr college...which I was the best actor and got staright 'A'...on the deans list and did 3 plays and to rave reviews...including one play outside of College at X-Bag theater starring me and Robert Townsend...

Next up was Southern Illionois University...my second year in college...str8 'A''s again dean list...my mother felt I was ready now to go to LA…next year was in Los Angles on a drama scholarship to Pepperdine University... dean's list...again..str'8 'A''s...named best actor..etc...first semester..but got discovered by Ray Powers a fellow actor in a play with me off campus...he introduced me to Personal Manager Steve Block ..who repped...Sherman Hemsley (The Jeffersons), Robert Hooks (NYPD), Kevin Hooks (The White Shadow), Denise Nicholas (Room 222), Antonio Fargas (Starsky & Hutch)...Steve said that Ray told him that I weas the best actor he had ever seen...I told him… I am and ray told me that too...he came to see me in a play and signed me...

A few days later I was up for Apocalypse Now...Larry Fishburne lied about his age and beat out me and Kevin hooks...from there my career was off and running...

When you appeared in the episode of THE WHITE SHADOW as a student (season 2)?

I remember my role was on the previews all week and was very happy because every black actor wanted to be on that series...I was hoping it would lead to me being a regular.
What’s your favorite episode of Season 3 (when you were a regular) of THE WHITE SHADOW?

The HERO episode when I pulled the lady out of the burning car was my favorite episode...I was in every scene...many of the cast members from the previous year thought thery were exploiting me too much...but Bruce Paltrow loved me as an actor...it was fun meeting all those named pro stars etc....and playing ball everyday and getting paid for it...!! I was so [popular on the show I could not go to Burger King or Mcdonald and order...I would get mobbed...]

How was it working on FLETCH?

Fun...me and Chevy clicked...me and George Wendt became friends…everything and everyone was so cool...

How about filming the intense scene when you are chased and arrested by the abusive cop?

Had to slow down to let the cops catch me... I was running too fast for them.

How about the scene talking to Fletch in the sand (as he's dressed up in the beard)?

We had a ball adlibing...Chevy and I would crack jokes to each other... Michael Ritchie of Fletch died a years ago…

What are your recollections of FERRIS BUELLER’S DAY OFF?

John was scared to tell me at the screening that all that work and scenes that me and Richard shot was on the editing room floor...it was suppose to be two stories going on...ours and Matthew's...but the film became too long.

You have become a producer and a writer and director on various projects… Tell us how it was switching from acting to behind the camera?

I always had a gift to how the character should be played by my co-stars as an actor so transitioning to behind the camera was easy and smooth for me…I enjoy the whole process of casting to editing to seeing the words I wrote up on it's feet on the screen...very cool...

How did you get your middle name FLASH?

Early on Bowling team in high school…then Karate…then Bruce Paltrow thought it was perfect for me because I learned lines so fast…

You worked on YOUNG DOCTORS IN LOVE… How was this?


Did the director a favor after the White Shadow… Garry Marshall writing the script as we filmed...changing scences in mid stride of the movie…

How about ARMED AND DANGEROUS?

Funny and great cast and we shot most of the film at The Beverly Hillbillies home in Bel Air...

Working on Brian De Palma’s BODY DOUBLE?

So cool… Me and Dennis Franz became the best of friends after that and remember we were on Steven Bochco's Bay City Blues together on the NBC series the year b4 that starred me and Sharon Stone and Michael Nouri along with Dennis...

The newly released 80’s buddy film LOOKIN’ TO GET OUT?

Jon Voight and Ann Margret was cool to be around…

LARRY FLASH JENKINS INTERVIEW BY JAMES M. TATE CULTFILMFREAK.COM (TAGS: Fletch Interview, Ferris Bueller's Day Off Interview, The White Shadow Interview)

3/01/2010

KATHLEEN WILHOITE ("MURPHY'S LAW")

Kathleen Wilhoite is a talented, energetic, versatile actress who’s played a wide variety of roles including a teenage delinquent in the Charles Bronson vehicle "Murphy's Law", where she's not just a side-character but is teamed up with the iconic actor throughout the entire film...

No other actress can claim they were handcuffed to Charles Bronson in a film… How was it working so close with the iconic Charles Bronson in “Murphy’s Law”?

Unbelievably fantastic. Charles Bronson is a brilliant actor. The real deal. I think whatever you might imagine working with him would be like; you probably wouldn't be far off. He was funny and kind, and brutally honest in a good way, smart, worked hard to get a scene just right, valued his family above all else.He became protective of me. He told me that my boyfriend had a head like a chicken. “How come you're dating a guy who's got a head like a chicken?" he'd ask. I had to laugh. Again, the guy was brutally honest. I had no answer for him.

Charles Bronson and director J. Lee Thompson had made several films together before “Murphy’s Law”… Did the production flow nicely?

Oh, yes. I remember the day before I went to work, J. Lee had a meeting with me and told me not to expect too much from Charlie, that he was a quiet man and just because he didn't say much, didn't mean he was thinking there was anything wrong. He said a lot of the actresses Charlie had worked with in the past would get progressively more paranoid as the filming went along.He told me that it was important I was made aware of that. My father's a lot like that, so when Charles and I had a long car scene, or when we were handcuffed together for long period of time, I just sat there quietly and let him steer the chitchat. He couldn't have been kinder and more interesting. When he was finished with his story, he'd say, "Let's shoooooooooot!" and the film would be rolling again.

“Murphy’s Law” was very physical – lots of action and fighting and your character was the brunt of most of it… Did you do any of your own stunts?

Sure. I love that stuff. I'm a tomboy and an ex gymnast. In my last life, I might have been a stunt chick. I developed a fear of heights but it was long after “Murphy's Law”. I remember the stories surrounding all the guns on the set and how careful the prop people were with them.

Your character had an interesting vocabulary, phrases such as “Chism Breath”, “Scrotum Cheeks”, “Snot Rags”, “Dinosaur Dork”… Do lines that stand out that you remember being particularly interesting and/or that you were embarrassed to read?

Oh, holy crap. All of them. Who talks like that? It was big part, but no potty mouth that I know of would ever "nail" someone by calling them a donkey dork. I was a student of Peggy Fruerry and Bill Traylor from the Loft Studio. We were all about "keeping it real," so to get a script like that, I had to just throw away my ideal about shaving my performances close to the bone. They didn't want me to swear too much.Last time I checked, swearing is kind of central to being a "potty mouth." I had a blast though. No doubt, except afterwards when I was doing a play in New York and every time I went down to Times Square, someone would follow me and say, "Hey, hey, Scrotum Cheeks, Jizz Breath. . ."

KATHLEEN WILHOITE INTERVIEW (PART 1) BY JAMES M. TATE

SHARON FARRELL: OUT OF THE REIVER COMET

The following will cover SHARON FARRELL films THE REIVERS, IT'S ALIVE, OUT OF THE BLUE and NIGHT OF THE COMET.  Beginning with Sharon, after working in Hollywood for over ten years, getting a chance for the love interest in THE REIVERS, a coming-of-age story based on a novel by William Faulker and starring the biggest movie star at that time, Steve McQueen, with whom she's the romantic interest...

What was Steve McQueen like and how did you get this part?

He was just lovely. I read for that scene like twenty-three times. I read for it and read for it and read for it and I was studying at the time with Joanne Linville who was with Stella Adler and she was married to Mark Rydell and I had worked with Mark Rydell, he had been working on “Ben Casey” and I had worked with him on “Ben Casey”, so I wasn’t like Leigh Taylor-Young or Tuesday Weld… There were a lot of actresses who were up for this part that were like much more well-known than me… And I just begged him and begged him, “Please, just let me read for Steve McQueen.”

Because I had had a crush… You know, who didn’t have a crush on Steve McQueen? And I just thought, I don’t care if I get it or not, I just want to meet him, I just want to read with him and then I said, “I’ll read fast, Mark, I’ll read really, really fast.” So it was this one scene I read over and over and over and I wasn’t supposed to cry but I kept crying and I could not stop crying.

And it was when the little boy says to me, “You’d make a good nurse”, and I say, “I’ve had men fight over me before, but I’ve never had anyone fight for me, and I don’t know what to do about this.” He looked at me. And I’m bandaging up his hand and… At that point I just turned into a faucet and Mark Rydell did not want that. He said, “Number one, this woman has been a hooker forever, and, you know, just because some little kid says something like that to her, she’s not gonna cry.”

So he had me do it over and over and over. So finally he got me all drained out of tears and he called Steve in, and I read with Steve and I read it just the way Mark wanted and he said, “Okay now, Sharon, do it the other way. Do it the way you came in.” And tears came poppin’ to my face and Steve said, “You’re Corrie. You got the part.”

Larry Cohen’s cult horror IT’S ALIVE centers on your average suburban family: a husband, John Ryan, and his pregnant wife, Sharon Farrell, who thinks she’s going into the hospital to give birth to something human, but as luck wouldn’t have it she delivers an evil mutant...

How did this role come about?

It was so funny because this was a really low-budget film, and Larry Cohen called me and said, “You know, Sharon, this is not a glamorous part.” And I said, “Oh listen,” I said, “Don’t worry, I can be unglamorous.” And I ran into the bathroom and I washed my face, and I straightened out my hair, and I came in and he said, “That’s it, that’s it… That’s what I want. That’s exactly what I want!” So that’s the way I did the movie, kinda like a plain Jane kinda character… And it was wonderful, I had a good time, but I was kinda worried... The way it was cast and everything… It was all his neighbors and everything, it was like, all friends of Larry Cohen did the movie.

And at one point I said, “Are you really going to show the baby? You aren’t really gonna show the baby?” ‘Cause I was so scared, and I was like, oh man, if they show that baby it’s gonna be all over; everyone’s gonna be laughing, you know, ‘cause he brought this rubber baby out, and the baby, it looked like a scary baby, but it was like a hard rubber thing. And I saw the movie and I don’t know how he got that camera to do what it did. And of course the music was so great… Bernard Hermann did the music… And oh my goodness the music was incredible. And the way he filmed that… Larry Cohen is a genius.

It's a very intense scene as you're in the hospital about to deliver the mutant and the doctor keeps reassuring you: while you know something's not right...

That was a real doctor… He was not a fake doctor, and he was really trying to examine me, you know, he wasn’t like an actor. He was trying to do what he was trying to do, but at the same time, I was an actress and I wasn’t really having a baby, but at the same time he was like going through the motions like, I mean, he was like… He had to stop himself from really… He had to stop himself several times from examining me. But he did make my screams and screeches a lot louder and more authentic just by being the doctor that he was. All those nurses in there and everything; that was a real hospital… They wheeled me out and wheeled somebody in.

The 1980 independent film OUT OF THE BLUE, directed by and starring Dennis Hopper, is one of the most shocking, controversial, and intense coming-of-age films ever made, and Sharon Farrell, as the mother of punk rocker Linda Manz, adds a desperate, intensive realism to the mix...

How did this film begin for you?

I went up to Canada and the first couple of days somebody else was directing and we were going to dailies and the shots were kind of normal kind of dailies and Dennis was sitting there saying, “Oh man, you should’ve done this… Oh man, oh man, you should have done it this way”, or, “What did you do that for?” “Why did you use that shot?” It’s like… in two days all of the sudden Dennis was directing this movie… And I kept thinking, “Why would a director give up his reigns?”

And I thought, “That guy probably had money in the movie," and Dennis had directed EASY RIDER, with Peter Fonda, and I had worked with Peter and I had heard all kinds of tales, and Dennis started rewriting the script. And what we went into that movie with… The script we went in with was not the script that was done. That movie had a life of its own, it really did. It was a lot of… It was Dennis. Dennis was just brilliant, he really was.

What kind of things did Dennis change from the original script?

Dennis had a horrible problem with the fact that his character had molested his daughter in the movie, and I think it kinda changed, it was a story about a girl who was molested by her father, and when you see the movie I don’t know whether you see that…

Only in the very end does the audience realize the girl, played by Linda Manz, had been, and still is being, molested by her father…

It was really hard because Dennis had a hard time with that. I remember he was saying things to me like, “You know it’s really the mother’s fault, it’s not the father’s fault, it’s the mother’s fault, because the mothers always know that this is going on and look the other way.” And so we’re always trying to figure out how to put that in somehow. It was like a… It was a dark movie.

What memories do you have of Dennis Hopper, the director?

It was a drug-induced… Everybody was on drugs during that time… And Dennis was a big drug user. I mean, it’s very hard to walk across the floor, in a room, and walk across the floor with amyl nitrate is stuck up your nose… Number one, when you take amyl nitrate, you get such a rush, your heart flutters and goes so fast you don’t know what’s happening. You have to walk across the room, you have to get over that just to walk into the room like a normal person, and he was always pulling stuff like that.

He was a little scary, you know… And he drank and drank, and he smoked. He started drinking beer at the crack of dawn. You know, it was just like… If you weren’t in that dressing room when he was rewriting the script, you’d be written out. So if they didn’t show up, they weren’t in the scene that day. And Dennis, he didn’t like the Canadian actors at all, and he kept firing them. And he brought in Don Gordon, and there was just actors he did not like… He just did not like Canadian actors and he got so many of us American actors in on it that they kicked him out of Cannes.

How was Don Gordon, who’d worked with Dennis in THE LAST MOVIE, to act with?

Oh he was wonderful… He was a good actor. And we were both scared, we didn’t know what Dennis was gonna pull… We really didn’t. We didn’t know what he was gonna ask us to do… We were scared to death.

SHARON FARRELL appeared in the zombie film NIGHT OF THE COMET in a very important role during the first ten minutes, playing an evil step mother of the two lead actresses, not only setting the stage of how life was before the comet turns humanity into piles of red dust, but the camera only shows her reaction as the comet, unseen to the audience, passes in the skies above: making her the sole representative of the world's demise.

Memories of the fight scene between you and Kelli Maroney?

She said, “Just really slap me, and I’ll really slap you, and we’ll fake the sock.” And she just flipped over the back of the couch, but the slaps were real. But the punch was not… I would have broken my hand. And we would have been hurting too much for that. But a slap… You can do a slap if you just do the palm of the hand and hit the cheek you can do it. It’s always better to fake it but…

We were shooting so fast we just… Kelli just… She just took over then. She just said, “Hit me… Slap me… I’m gonna slap you, Sharon, and you slap me.” And she was a good little actress… She was a wonderful little actress.

And it was fun working with her and the other girl [Catherine Mary Stewart] was great. And my son [Chance Boyer] was in that.

When you’re staring up at the sky as the comet is passing, what are you really looking at?

The director threw a football across, and that was our Comet. He just took a football… I think it was… He took Chance’s… He wanted to be Terry Bradshaw during those days… And he wanted to carry a football. They have this little boy carrying a doll and he said, “I don’t want to carry a doll, I’ll carry a football.” So the director took Chance’s football and he threw it across and that was our Comet... We all followed it with our eyes in horror.

You've done some other great indie horror films like IT'S ALIVE and...

THE PREMONITION! That one’s a scary one… Danielle Brisebois was in that… She was a little girl that was in “Archie Bunkers Place”, she did that series, she was a wonderful little actress… She was such a trooper. I was holding her in my lap; it was raining and cold… We were on location, oh my God, these little kids that start out acting… They go through so much. The thing of it is that whenever you’re on a set, everybody loves kids… And they’re away from their kids and so everybody has a lot of love for children… And they get a lot of attention that they wouldn’t normally get from anyone else, you know… And I remember she was just a little doll.

REVISITING ANNA WITH SALLY KIRKLAND

SALLY KIRKLAND is an amazing, highly versatile actress, a fact proven in many eclectic roles, particularly the 1987 independent film ANNA as the titular Czech actress struggling in New York City, a performance that garnered an Oscar nomination and a Golden Globe win.

What kind of preparation went into Anna’s accent?

I can answer that question… The way I achieved that voice and that accent… Initially she was Polish in the script, and then she became Czech. And then I went to the Samuel French bookstore and I got tapes on Eastern European accents. I combined that with restudying Meryl Streep in SOPHIE’S CHOICE…

I combined that with going to the Heidelberg Bar on 86th Street in New York and listening to all of the different Eastern Europeans in all of the different countries. I combined that with Marlene Dietrich… [Imitates Dietrich] “Falling in love again, what am I to do with someone like you, I can’t help it.” I tried to channel Marlene Dietrich with that voice, put that together with what I learned about the accent...

And then once I found out that it was Czech, I knew there was an elevator man in my mother’s building in New York, and I went back to him in the back elevators, and I said, “Cleo, can you spring yourself for about a half hour – I’ll give you a bottle of wine, and come to my apartment – to my mother’s apartment – and I want you to help me with something.” And he read every line in the movie in that Czechoslovakian accent and I put them on tape. Plus I marked the script whenever he would change the W's to V's or role an R, or whatnot.

And there were a lot of extraordinary women who I think were being considered – I’m just gonna take a wild that guess that I think maybe they approached Vanessa Redgrave’s people… Lee Grant, Shirley Knight – lot of different ways to go – and I don’t think initially he [the director] thought I was right… His name is Yurek Bogayevicz.

And I kept coming back; I think there were about three auditions. And I would send him flowers all the time. At one point I think I was standing in the rain, waiting for him to come out – like the scene in the movie. Waiting for him to come out of the building and I just stalked him, you know.

And finally I got a call, right when I was at the airport ready to go to Sidney, Australia to teach a hundred actors "Insight Seminars" (acting with Spiritual or New Age techniques)… And that had been planned for some time.

And I had got a call to come read with Paulina Porizkova. And I said to my agent, “I can’t do it, I’m at the airport and I’m ready to go to Sidney.” And they said, “Sally, this is this part you want.” I said, “I know, I know… But I feel terrible letting down a hundred people who have already paid their money. They’re expecting me tomorrow.”

And it was a real moment in my life where I didn’t know how to make a decision, but somewhere I honored the whole spiritual part of me that had already committed to doing this thing that, you know, was very far away and couldn’t be cancelled. So I just… leap of faith… I did a week long there. And I came back and he was waiting for me to test with Paulina Porizkova.

And he had us improvise, and she and I got along instantly and she guessed that I was a Scorpio. I guessed that she was an Aries. It was kind of incredible and we fell in love, she and I, so to speak. And I coached her on acting, and she coached me on Czech, and it was a marriage made in heaven, you know. She was the number one model at that point.

And there was another little trick I used for Anna’s accent. I had, starting in 1970, right up until recent years… I had been a yoga teacher for the Integral Yoga institute. And a man named Swami Satchidananda, who opened the Woodstock Festival… If you remember the guru sitting there, opening the festival… That was Swami Satchidananda. I taught for him, and we learned Sanskrit chanting, so we’d learn [Sally begins chanting]… So if heard in there: there was a rolled R, in a very literal sense. So I used that also for Anna’s accent… I combined Hindi with German with, eventually, Czech.

Did you use your own past experiences for the role of an actress struggling for work?

That and men… My experiences with men. I didn’t have to try too hard. Although one reviewer or journalist said: “Sally Kirkland: Overnight Discovery.” And I said, “Yeah, after twenty-five years.” I’d been doing this thing since I was… Making money at it since I was 17. And I started acting when I was ten… Not for money, you know. So by the time they said “Overnight Success,” it was sort of like: “Okay, sure.” But all the actors out there in the world really related to this role because it totally gives you the hopes and rejections of the actor.

I really enjoy the scene where you’re auditioning for the play with the other actresses…

Wasn’t that great? We did that in one take. Bobby Bukowski, the cameraman there, had a track, and the camera would go from one end of the track to the other, and what you saw, we really didn’t rehearse a lot. We sort of shot the rehearsals. When I jump up on one leg – you know, “Humpy Dumpty sat on the wall…”

In the audition he said, “Throw away the script; give me a nursery rhyme.” And I jumped up and down. I did whatever he told me to, and that ended up in the movie but we didn’t rehearse it. Everything you saw in the movie was filmed exactly how you saw it. Not every scene, but that scene for sure, what you’re talking about, with the actresses.

I loved how Anna walks around in a sort of heavy, clunky manner, reminiscent of certain women from European countries…

Well that was my observation of the Eastern European women. There was a word for it that Yurek told me, and I can’t remember the word for it now… But it was definitely characteristic… Interesting you picked up on that.

Along with your friendship with the young girl, and the aspect of the struggling actress, there’s a love story that’s very moving…

I’d been in love with Bob Dylan in that time-frame, I mean… All my life. But in the seventies, eighties and it was sort of… Ultimately I felt like my heart broke. And I used that for Tonda, the husband… I used Bob. I personalized Bob for Tonda.

One of my personal favorite scenes is with you and Paulina lying on the bed…

It was a five-minute scene, and we only had enough film in the camera for one take. And they asked me if I would mind doing it in one take… We were at the Chelsea Hotel and we only had it for a certain amount of time that day, and this being a low budget film we had to really get that shot so they started out with a master shot in the corner of the room. And they came down closer and closer and closer to the two of us on the bed in more of a two-shot close-up. And I remember that it was a long, long amount of lines, and I was nervous that I wouldn’t get through the whole thing in one take.

And so I had some lines written on a piece of paper, taped to the wall. And when you see my eyes look up, I’m actually looking at the lines on the wall. But being a good actress you would never know… It was just the very end of the monologue. I needed support from this magic marker from this piece of white paper on the wall.

I remember in that scene with her I was talking about having been in a Russian prison, and losing my baby. And I had had a couple of miscarriages, and as a method acting teacher, too… which I am… I used something called Emotional Recall where I was thinking about these two children that I would have had – and using that for losing the baby in the Russian prison, and getting mad at the Russians who kind of created that situation for me… And then holding onto this young woman who was my child and just transferring all of that lost love that I always wanted to have as a mother, to her. It’s a wonderful film, you guys… ANNA.

JACQUELINE SCOTT ("PLANET OF THE APES")

With the release of the new film RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES, the fact all the simians are computer animated will bring more than a spark of honored repose to the original movies, as well as the TV series that starred Roddy McDowall and, in two classic episodes, JACQUELINE SCOTT, recalling the time and effort to get those masks on.

You were part of the short-lived but brilliant television series PLANET OF THE APES…

It was just crazy that they didn’t continue them. They only did thirteen of the television shows and I did two, one playing a little farm wife [The Good Seeds]. And I was trying to get out of the Westerns because I’d done it so much that people thought I couldn’t talk any differently, so I had to get out of Westerns. And then I get this script for “Planet of the Apes” and it says: “The humans come over the hill and we see a little farm house.” I said, “Oh my God, now I’m gonna be an ape farm wife.” But I loved to do it. And then I played Roddy’s fiancé [The Surgeon] and if they had continued doing them, I would have been a recurring ape.

Why did the series get cancelled?

Because it’s so expensive – putting the makeup on was about three and a half, four hours. And then you could only wear the appliances once, and then they had to be destroyed. And they had to have the very best makeup man in the business on that show, because it was not easy to put the masks on. And they were in two pieces… And then they had to know how to lay the hair on your face, and hair on your hands, and it’s quite a complicated makeup job.

So with the combination of only being able to use the appliances once, and then the time that it took to put them on… And then they didn’t want to pay us to take them off, but we got around that, because if you could imagine driving home on a freeway in those ape masks – we would have caused about a five-hundred car pile up.

I was at the casting with Beverly Garland, and we were the only women who liked to work in them, and yet you never got used to them. You would walk past the mirror and just scare the living daylights out of yourself.

They had these crazy makeup men, and they were all funny. And when you start getting those appliances on you cannot laugh. And so it was not an easy thing to do, but they would be around stirring these huge vats all day long, pouring these into moulds. I had Kim Hunter’s mask… That mould fit me well enough they used that for me… They had all the moulds. I may be telling tales out of school here, but I don’t think so. But they used moulds; I think they probably had been originally done for different characters in the movie. And Roddy had a special one, you know… And to cross his path was to love him. He was the most wonderful person… He was just a lovely man.

There are some incredible expressions by the actors and actresses playing apes in the films and TV series…

Well that’s the brilliance of those masks because the area… The mask… It’s two-pieces. I don’t know if I can explain it to you but… The top goes on your forehead and over your nose and over your mouth… I mean – your own mouth is free. And then there’s just a chin that is separate, but the area around the edges of your mouth, and the edges of your eyes, are your own skin – and those are the two most expressive places on your face. So that’s the real brilliance of those masks and why they are, you know… Why you really think you’re watching a talking ape.

I don’t think they can do with computers what they did with those masks...

Yeah, they can’t make the human expression and feelings. I don’t know if you watch “Jeopardy.” The other night the contestant was playing the computer, and they said the computer cannot… It has no feelings, no emotion. So, you know, that’s of course what we had in those masks.

I just loved to work in them. Because you had to use a lot of the most expressive things that just happen as a reflex action, as an actress, that doesn’t happen because your hands are all covered with hair, and your face is all covered and your body… You have loose clothing and so you have to find very specific ways to express yourself different from what you generally would have to do. I just loved doing it. But the worst thing was having them on.

Like one day I had it on for eighteen hours, and Roddy said to me: “These don’t seem to bother you as much as they do other people.” And I said, “Well what are you gonna do, put ‘em on and complain all day?”

I really didn’t realize, but when I finished doing the shows, the next morning I opened my eyes and the first thought that crossed my mind was: “Thank Heaven I don’t have to put those masks on today.” And I never thought it bothered me… Isn’t that interesting?

And I imagine taking off the makeup is much easier…

Well yeah, but you’re talking it off with… It takes about twenty minutes to take them off… But you’re getting a little face peel there. A lot of ripping off appliances and God knows I… I didn’t even want to ask what we had to use to get that glue off, but it didn’t get rid of my freckles… So there you are.

But when that mask is on, and when the crew starts telling you that you look pretty that day, you know they’ve been on the show too long.

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